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| Gasjar, is correct in his statement and You can't always trust the VA. Let's face it Agent Orange used in Vietnam has caused the death by cancer of a lot of vets. When I went to the VA back in 1976 the Chief Medical Officer expressed since I had excellent health insurance I should go to a private medical facility like MD Anderson so I did. UB1, you got to trust you INSTINCT as well as seek out information that will enhance your health. MD Anderson couldn't help me either. I am still alive doing well because I walk daily ( can't run due to below knee amputation) eat the right foods (fresh veggies, turkey, etc.) Since I retired recently I have started a Victory Garden ( small patch of land used for growing enough veggies for family). My daughter and granddaughter live with us so I need to supplement our diets with healthy organic foods. My cousin raises chickens so we have fresh eggs from chickens that root for their foods. My point is too many chemicals in food one buys can harm one. Got to run. frogman11
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Finally learned How to edit this part! 1980 GMC truck 1/2 ton 350 CID with 3 spd. auto (test truck) 1995 Dodge Interpid 3.3 liter with overdive(next test engine) 2006 Toyata Highlander -off limits wife's car.
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frogman11,
Thank you so much for you very reveling input. Like I said once before, "Welcome Home". We are pretty close to being on the same page. While on medcaps in the highlands I ate rice and drank water that had been sprayed with the orange. I believe I have not been able to have children as a result of it. It has taken me a long time to get back in the moment and out of the past so I invite you my friend to explore the HOD water towel treatment with me. I am very happy to report that I experience less pain on a daily basis. I have a small ranch in the desert that keeps my wife and I very busy. We are also growing our own fish, chickens, veggies. I started doing laps around the ponds last year. At first I needed braces on my knees, ankles and back. I haven't been able to run for some time. But now have no braces and shuffle the odd laps. I bought the material to make a sun still and hope to get a chance to make it soon. I am glad to report that my hands are returning to normal which allows me to do so much more. They hurt so bad that I lost the ability to grip and I would suddenly drop what I was holding, which was very frustrating when I would drop a nut on the truck frame under the engine and turn around and do it again. We recently bought a massage table at Costco and my wife is stretching the tendons in my legs. I plan to start the HOD water towel treatment on her, when I improve the volume of water I am processing which probably means making another electrolyzer. I don't have the time to keep an eye on 4hrs of water treatment. So, far bubbling for two hours seems to work best at no more that 120 degrees F and 1.5 to 2.5 amps.,with 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda, I put the electrolyzer in a bowel of water and add ice if the temp starts getting to high, I also drape a towel around the electrolyzer to let wicking help out 
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| UB1, Well we never got the parades or welcome homes but we served with Honor! I served 4 yrs USN as a flight engineer, aviation electronic tech (radar)machine gunner and later as a UDT on the Mekong Delta (river of mud & blood)(1964-1967) 3 years and 6 months. Haven't had a nightmares in a while-still keep loaded 45 by bedside-always ready! All my fellow Vets joined the VFW but it was too much of a downer reliving past occurrences over a pitcher of beer!! So I demurred-beer was ok when young but too much of it can cause a host of health issues-destroys liver, etc. ENOUGH ALL READY! Welcome Home! I am concerned about how much of that chemical Goop is being transferred when using your charged water for drinking. I haven't been able to return to your first posting when the other users where advocating some other type of Goop. Maybe there is no transfer of harmful chemical substances to the charged water system---just not sure. I will make another electrolizer without using the Goop to glue the wires. I have made 2 electolizers to go into my old but trusty GMC 1/2 ton 350. I just finished overhauling the 3 spd the automatic myself. When I make the 3rd electrolyzer I will employ it to perk the charged water and then I will join you. Despite my BKA issue, my health (CBC) is that of a young man. I stayed in shape by swimming in the Bay after fishing for trout and eating the right foods. Winter time I rest! My poor wife is on all kinds of meds. I only take thyroid meds-its underactive. Maybe that charged water can get me off thyroid meds. Just learning how to navigate this forum-not new to computers just the ways to navigate. I've been building computers for myself since 1984. I wanted to move back on a ranch in the Hill country of Texas but married a girl from the Houston where I was forced to work for 37 years with SPRR as loco. engineer. Any how-I accept your challenge about the charged water use for health------Just maybe we'll find the " Fountain of Health " in this besides saving money on gas. One can't dispute success so I will build it today!!!! Take Care Old Vet, frogman11
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I let the goop dry for 48 hrs as directed with lid off. I did not use the first batches of water, because it is suggested to let the electrodes burn in so to speak. From what I understand tiny pockets are made in the wire where the carbon is electrolyzed out and it makes the wire produce more gas because of more surf area. As for toxins. I think most of them are in the drying agents. By the time you are ready to use the water, I believe most of the toxins are gone and remember you are bubbling into a jar of fresh water and the gas itself is supposed to neutralize toxins, I do not drink the water in the electrolyzer. However, I have a way to make the electolyzer without any glue for those who don't want to take "any" chances. However, I do not write about it on the net because it might infringe on Ozzies ability to sell the books and I owe him more than I can say... I will be happy to send you an email since you are already a book member if you are interested.
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| I will attempt to post without getting an error message. Hell no-I wouldn't drink the electolizer water either. You probably right in your assertions about the harmful stuff dissolves after 48 hrs. My 3rd electolizer is constructed of "harvest Mill " jar-got it from the dollar store. This unit hooked up with 12VDC, 5 amp fuse and 2 teaspoons of pure baking soda ( no aluminum) heated up to 140.9 F measured with laser temp gage-Hey I am cooking now. I pulled 4.5 amps on amp meter after 1 hr. Will drink water little bit each day. This jar holds 40oz of water. Talk at you'll later.
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There are not to many yardsticks that I know of yet. From what I read Ozzie and Bill Lang experience a pick me up like from drinking a good cup of coffee. I did not experience that pick me up but I am now assuming I was heavily toxified. So, a yard stick might be " If you don't experience a pick me up after drinking 8oz of HOD bubbled water you may be toxcitic and need to continue the treatment." I dought I will stop doing the treatments in the foreseeable future even if I get to where I am pain free.
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| I understand about not being any "yard sticks" to go by but according to the theory I've read H.H.O. production is based on the amount of amps the elecrolizer draws. With a 12VDC source being applied and a 4.6 amp draw that should be producing a lot of H.H.O.. I measured the temp rise in the electrolizer with my laser guage-it was 141.9 while ambient temp was 95.8. Shouldn't this be some non-medical yardstick to determine "charged water" condition. In other words the charged water I use may or not be as strong as yours. I have a friend who's wife has a PHD in chemical engineering-I asked her the other day and she expressed an analyzer could be used but they cost over a grand. Maybe she has one at her lab that I could use-will have to ask her. Will keep you'll posted! frogman11
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| Yep, I love this topic on the benefits of drinking water after putting it through the Electrolyser. I am still trying to get it right after reading the chapter over and over, but not sure if my water is energised or not. As I am English, of course I drink tea !!! I have been using natural honey in tea for years and it is so much smoother than sugar or sweetners. Another great use for honey is putting it neat on any cuts or wounds as it really heals up so much quicker, So please keep them bees buzzing!!
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Frogman11,
After I fixed the one way "check valve" problem, I had a lot more bubbling. My electrodes are fairly well broke in now and produce a lot of gas at low amperage. I have made and used about about 20 quarts of HOD water now, half drank and half toweled I forgot to record a couple. As my bad symtoms deminish it is harder and harder to tell if I am still getting results. The first day I toweled the water over my feet it was unmistakable. I am hoping and expecting that one of these days I will get that pick me up that Bill talks about and I will know if I made a good batch. For now I am sticking to the same electrolyzer 1 quart of water in the bubbler jar and 2 hrs of bubbling.
Welcome to our new British member, Its wonderful to have someone that really knows about a good cup of tea in the group.
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Hi UB1,
Thanks for the welcome note.
It is now just after 8am here and time for a cup of tea and browse the forum for anything I can learn about Water4Gas.
The system I am starting with is the set up outside the car which has a Cellphone charger for power into the Electrolyser unit.
Plus an Aquariam air pump putting air into the system.
Although I am getting bubbles into jar 2, I am not sure whether they are just air bubbles or contain H.H.O..
I am going to try connecting the unit up to a 12 volt car battery to see if it increases the volume, which I am sure it will.
However, as I am a complete novice, I really will appreciate any advice from more experienced members.
I have started drinking the water but not sure if it has been charged or not.
May I offer a tip that I discovered regarding large Jars?
Looking through our local supermarkets, I found "own brand" 300 gram coffee jars: Size 8 1/2" high by 3 1/2 wide which I think is the ideal size, plus they already have a good plastic lid, so you get the jar plus the coffee for less than 4 bucks.
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