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I am driving a `94 Chevy K1500 Short bed with a 350 in it. I had the available space to install basically any amount of electrolyzer as I would like. I chose 6 units in series. The coils are wrapped at 3/8". I am using 1/2 a tsp of baking soda. The bubbler is set at approx 3 bubbles per second. When the coils are energized you cannot see through the jars due to so many bubbles. My initial testing proved that I was getting 12 miles/gallon, and my wife is getting 14 miles/gallon. After installation I saw a noticeable improvement to 15.35 miles/gallon, which is very pleasing, but after seeing some of your results what am I missing?
Congratulations on all of your successes!
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I am having a similar problem. with my 97 K1500 Chevy w/ 350 eng. I have ordered a dual EFIE for the O2 sensors and am hoping that will help. I am also not convinced that we really need 2 outlet hoses running to a vacuum line and to air intake. My best mpg has been with 1 hose to air intake. Still a lot to learn. Please keep us updated on your success and what works for you.
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| If you guys will keep an update on your success, that would be great. I have a 97 Sierra with a 350 and I'm at the reading stage of this venture, having tried nothing yet. I'm hoping for the results others here are having as well. At the moment, I'm getting about 15-16, mostly highway at 70-80 mph.
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RobCathyM (6/21/2008)
I am driving a `94 Chevy K1500 Short bed with a 350 in it. I had the available space to install basically any amount of electrolyzer as I would like. I chose 6 units in series. The coils are wrapped at 3/8". I am using 1/2 a tsp of baking soda. The bubbler is set at approx 3 bubbles per second. When the coils are energized you cannot see through the jars due to so many bubbles. My initial testing proved that I was getting 12 miles/gallon, and my wife is getting 14 miles/gallon. After installation I saw a noticeable improvement to 15.35 miles/gallon, which is very pleasing, but after seeing some of your results what am I missing?
Congratulations on all of your successes!See my post; Too Many Hoses???
Walking Eagle, Last of the Visionaries
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I don't think your missing anything, but when you stated alot of bubbles well thats one thing thats bad.
As few bubbles as possible. To many bubbles to much gas, to much gas no efficiency, to many bubbles to much water.
You got a great truck to work with, probably one of the best engines. If your engine has a throttle body injection system, it will pay you to put a new gasket under the throttle body. You could be loosing vacuum indirectly the the vacuum gauge won't pick up. If it high miles while you have the body off change the injector, there are multiple sizes you can purchase from competition suppliers. Somewhat pricey but later on you might want to try another size to see if that helps. Another thing is timing advance about a degree. Not a big spike just a small amount at a time.
Hope that helps somewhat.
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One other thing about those Gms. Everyone will probably have a small amount of difference in their results because of timing. If a different mechanic tunes them the timing is different on everyone so your results will be different. I takes a slight change to make a difference,
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I don't think your missing anything, but when you stated alot of bubbles well thats one thing thats bad.
As few bubbles as possible. To many bubbles to much gas, to much gas no efficiency, to many bubbles to much water.I'm not quite sure of what you're trying to say here. Could you possibly clarify it for me?
Walking Eagle, Last of the Visionaries
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| Hi, please i want to check again if the electrolyzer dont take air from out side it wont work correctly? my jars doesnt have any air from out side just the jar and bubbler i tryed to check the volts it was 13 volts as for the amps its more than 10am coz my tester limit only to 10 so it gaveme more than 10amps but i think its not occurit what i had as reading. Regards
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EHAB (8/9/2008)
Hi, please i want to check again if the electrolyzer dont take air from out side it wont work correctly? my jars doesnt have any air from out side just the jar and bubbler i tryed to check the volts it was 13 volts as for the amps its more than 10am coz my tester limit only to 10 so it gaveme more than 10amps but i think its not occurit what i had as reading. Regards Halito EHAB, That is a hard question to answer. There are some who say that the air in is not necessary, and others who say that it is, so I can only offer my personal preference. I have tried it with the air intake closed tightly, and I have tried it with it open a small amount. From my observations, I seem to get 2 to 5 mpg's more with it open, than with it closed. But, keep it in mind that these are only my observations, and perhaps I am seeing only what I want to see. (lol) So, the only thing I can suggest is; experiment. run without air coming in, get a verified mpg, then change your jars so that you can let air in, then make tests that way. Find out what is best for you. That would be the only way to know for sure. Good luck
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Fonz (8/10/2008)
RobCathyM (6/21/2008)
I am driving a `94 Chevy K1500 Short bed with a 350 in it. I had the available space to install basically any amount of electrolyzer as I would like. I chose 6 units in series. The coils are wrapped at 3/8". I am using 1/2 a tsp of baking soda. The bubbler is set at approx 3 bubbles per second. When the coils are energized you cannot see through the jars due to so many bubbles. My initial testing proved that I was getting 12 miles/gallon, and my wife is getting 14 miles/gallon. After installation I saw a noticeable improvement to 15.35 miles/gallon, which is very pleasing, but after seeing some of your results what am I missing?
Congratulations on all of your successes!You are not missing anything, you got a 1.35 mpg increase. This is well within the standard deviation of 14 mpg which means if you took a check without the H.H.O. you can still probably get readings of 15.35 mpg. This is the same thing I run into, I DON'T THINK THIS SMALL AMOUNT OF H.H.O. IS DOING ANYTHING. Don't waste your time or money on this. It didn't help my 2001 Chevy S10 4.3 V6 either. It didn't make the engine run smoother and give it more power like many are stating on here. Oh I know some will say you need a efie, well I would get one if I had seen any indication that this was helping power or anthing like that. This Ozzie character doesn't know about the bubbles heck he states that a Mr. Lang (the inventor) says fulling closed when running HOD but he prefers slightly open. The bubbles are not your problem, the problem is these jars with coils don't produce enough to make one bit of difference. 4 vehicles, ALL getting consistant increases of 50 to 90% in mpg's. ALL using jars with coils. What are you doing wrong????
Walking Eagle, Last of the Visionaries
Bakersfield, CA
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