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have been doing research on water4gas for couple of weeks. very interesting and addictive.i am starting at the bottom and plan working my way thru the different systems.just installed a pretty crude looking vaporiser in my diesel patrol and already had success.40.8km trip today without vaporiser took 6.67ltr at cost of aus$13.07,same trip with vaporiser took 5.79ltr at cost of aus$11.34.if my maths is right that is 13% improved milage.at 20000 kms per year which i do easy i reckon thats over $800 saving,and thats just using tap water!!!! i also noticed a deffinate increace in power,crazy stuff. im waiting on parts for my electrilizer and then will try charged water system.the problem i do have and by reading this site so do many ,is vaccuum.i have hooked hose into the throut of manifold and have great vaccum at just over 2000rpm but nothing under.any advice will be appreciated.
as i get more knowledge on water4gas im going to have a crack at my toyota dyna 1981 diesel truck and 1997 toyota hiace commuter bus anyway good luck to you all and i will hopefully let yous know of more success cheers ben
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Let us Know how U go. Am going to install on my Patrol.
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| Benf61 How did you get hose into throat of manifold?
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| i had a air restricter valve under my secondary filter. a spring loaded gadget that lets you know when air filter getting blocked.i removed this to put hose onto.
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"...just installed a pretty crude looking vaporiser in my diesel patrol... the problem i do have and by reading this site so do many, is vaccuum. i have hooked hose into the throut of manifold and have great vaccum at just over 2000rpm but nothing under. any advice will be appreciated."
My truck is a 1991 Nissan Patrol with a 3.3-liter diesel 6-cyl factory-turbocharged engine. I have just installed a 1-cell system.
I have attached the output hose from the electrolyzer to a point just before the turbo. At an rpm of only 900, and with the "bubbler" or what I call the "vacuum-relief adjuster" fully open, the electrolyzer gurgles. Am wondering why you can't get a strong vacuum at less than 2000 rpm.
I had a problem getting a reasonable vacuum too from a non-turbocharged 2.2-liter diesel Kia Sportage. That's a Mazda Magnum diesel engine, I think. I could get it bubbling (with the adjuster fully open) only at 1500 rpm.
Maybe the turbo spells the difference?
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Try cutting bubbler or the vacuum adjuster valve tube so it is above water level and open bubbler adjuster so it creates a small indentation in water - it works for me on a small deisel so might work for you
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benf61 (7/5/2008)
have been doing research on water4gas for couple of weeks. very interesting and addictive.i am starting at the bottom and plan working my way thru the different systems.just installed a pretty crude looking vaporiser in my diesel patrol and already had success.40.8km trip today without vaporiser took 6.67ltr at cost of aus$13.07,same trip with vaporiser took 5.79ltr at cost of aus$11.34.if my maths is right that is 13% improved milage.at 20000 kms per year which i do easy i reckon thats over $800 saving,and thats just using tap water!!!! i also noticed a deffinate increace in power,crazy stuff. im waiting on parts for my electrilizer and then will try charged water system.the problem i do have and by reading this site so do many ,is vaccuum.i have hooked hose into the throut of manifold and have great vaccum at just over 2000rpm but nothing under.any advice will be appreciated.
as i get more knowledge on water4gas im going to have a crack at my toyota dyna 1981 diesel truck and 1997 toyota hiace commuter bus anyway good luck to you all and i will hopefully let yous know of more success cheers ben
Per my calculation, you increased your mileage by 16.4% from 6.1 km/liter to 7.1 km/liter.
This translated to a decrease in your fuel cost per kilometer by 12.5% (or about 13%).
You got this with only 1 cell installed? And from a 4.2 liter diesel engine with a very low vacuum? Wow! Real great gains! Am green with envy!
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| Hi, congratulations all iam so happy for you. My first result of hyundai accent 2003 1.3cc engine is perfect so far its making more than 50% saving fuel. As for the mitsubishi iam facing vacuum challenge as you but the difference is that when having car getting more rpm the vacuum stops for a small moments and back again, what i discoverd that vacuum stops from the pipes and all vacuum go to carburaitor so it sucks more air throw the carburaiter and what i'll do i'll insert a H.H.O. hose direct to the air filter so when vacuum stops the carburaiter will have the H.H.O. throw the air filter. Keep all good work wishing all the best Regards
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Hyundai Accent 2003 ( 50% saving)
Hyundai Accent 1998 ( 45% saving)
Mitsubishi lancer 2000 1.5cc ( 35% saving with carb engine)
Chevrolet truck 5.7cc (under test) Mitsubishi outlander 2005 ( 30% saving) Opel kadett 1990 ( 35% saving)
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Good work there, Ehab.
How many cells did you install in the 2003 Hyundai Accent 1.3 liter to get the 50% increase in mileage?
Do keep us posted.
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aussie john (8/19/2008)
Try cutting bubbler or the vacuum adjuster valve tube so it is above water level and open bubbler adjuster so it creates a small indentation in water - it works for me on a small deisel so might work for you
If the end of the vacuum tube is above the water level, wouldn't that constitute a direct opening through which the hydroxy gas could obfuscate from the "gas chamber" to the atmosphere? And the distance between the end of the tube and the water surface would increase as the water is used up...
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