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I live in the Greenville SC area and just saw that Ch 4 news (Local NBC affiliate) is going to air a segment this Thursday on if you can run your car, or improve your mpg with water. They showed the water4gas web page in their promo. It should be interesting how they portray this. It is part of a week long series on saving gas.
Water 4 Gas is cool!
1993 Mazda MX3 GS 1.8L V6 (current project) (4 Cells, bubbler, O2 extenders and foil)
2002 Pontiac Montana (wife might let me work on it after I prove the project on the Mazda)
Easley, SC
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Well News 4 did their report. They purchased the books from water4gas and had the dean of automotive technology at Greenville tech build an electrolyzer and hook it up to a 1990 Buick century. They hooked the car up to heir sensors and ran a before and after test. To their surprise they concluded that the jar of water with wires stuffed in it worked and produced fuel. They plan on a 3 week test to see if mileage increases or not but the Tech guys said they would expect a 10-20% increased and that it could only help. They also said based on the sensors it made 87 octane run like high test. I don't know how long the story will stay on the web site but here it is. Click Here
Water 4 Gas is cool!
1993 Mazda MX3 GS 1.8L V6 (current project) (4 Cells, bubbler, O2 extenders and foil)
2002 Pontiac Montana (wife might let me work on it after I prove the project on the Mazda)
Easley, SC
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I saw the report online and it was very interesting. I expected it to report results that were less than favorable, but instead it was very supportive, if not also cautious. They are going to do a follow-up piece in 2 weeks and I am looking forward to what the results will be. If they are sincere, they will note a possible decline in performance due to the sensors and take the suggested corrective measures to overcome the problem. If not then they will try to debunct the device and give the usual Half-truth. We will see...
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I wish we could contact the instructors at the school and tell them that they have to add an EFIE to the O2 sensors to get the best results.
Justin Green
Sale Creek Tn, USA
1993 Honda Civic current project
2004 Honda Oddyssey van next project
1997 Ford F-450 dump bed diesel
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being that the vehicle is a 1990 model they very well may not have hardly any issues...even with the OBC.
Bailey231Raleigh, North Carolina04 F250 (gas)07 Escape
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Well they came back with their 3 week results. They got 2 MPG less with the H.H.O.. They claim it was because it was a water4gas system (simple and not capable enough). They were correct in saying that it tricked the computer into using more gas and stated that the owners manual says you need to alter the sensors. Then they said that was illegal, I guess they didn't read all the legality debate that was done on this forum. They did say that this kind of inventing is how breakthroughs are made but basically they claimed the theory correct but water4gas system didn't work. Unfortunately I haven't been able to see any gains when I do normal driving and fill up after a 1/4 tank. I guess I need to break down and decide if I should build or buy an EFIE. Problem is I used up my extra cash on the books and building the jars. So as of now the wife says I can't spend any more $$.
Water 4 Gas is cool!
1993 Mazda MX3 GS 1.8L V6 (current project) (4 Cells, bubbler, O2 extenders and foil)
2002 Pontiac Montana (wife might let me work on it after I prove the project on the Mazda)
Easley, SC
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You can contact the 4 new team. I am thinking of doing it myself and give them a challenge. I live in S.Carolina but I am more diesels than gas so I don't know. If they are going to use older model cars like the tech school did then I would be glad to do it.
keep on truckin the goose
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I have contacted the reporter at news4. Here's a copy of my e-mail. Hope it only upsets the skeptics.
Ms. Brotherton,
I gotta say that was some report you did on Water4Gas. As usual the news media does not report on the whole story so it generally turns out with negative results.
You cannot just ad a cell (H.H.O. jar) and expect good results. With automotive computers on board you have to re-program the thinking of most of the sensors on board the
vehicle. Your 1990 buick that was used by the school also requires what we call an EFIE unit to be installed. This unit is place between the 02 sensor and the vehicles on board computer. If they had read the book in it's entirety they would have seen that. If it was done properly that Buick would have achieved significant results on the positive side.
I install these units regularly. Although I specialize in Diesels engines I have also done several gas burners. Yes we are having some problems with the 2007 and up models with their newer style computers, but guess what. That will be fixed by Christmas. No one can guarantee any one to double their mileage, but I will tell some one I can get them at least
20%. Every diesel that I have installed on, (namely class 8 trucks,semi's) will have a gain in mileage. A semi with a gain of 1.5 miles per gallon at the end of a years driving will result in at least $25,000 dollars in savings for the operator. That's a lot of money for a small business to save.
Feel free to contact me anytime, I will be glad to help. I will go so far as to join the instructors at the school and show them how to do it and won't charge them a thing.
All I ask if for a complete and positive finish to this story. There are hundred's of people everyday joining in and adding these units their vehicles and I will only bet when your research is complete, you to will have these on everyone of your family cars.
You have the book, join the Water4Gas forum, read of the 100's of people like your self who were once skeptics and now believers.
The rest is up to you.
Thanking you They call me the whgoose
Paul
That's it in a nutshell, we'll see what happens.
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Good for you. I for 1 am tired of hearing people say it can't work. Many on this site know that it can work. My question is, if I can get mileage increases why can't the factories incorporate this type of simple technology into a new vehicle. They could build big enough Electrolizers and design the computers to deal with the H.H.O. right from the start. Could all the rumors be true that big oil company's like all the huge profits they make and they control the economy of our nation?
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