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Posted 3/5/2009 7:35:04 PM
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we37 (9/10/2008)
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So you are removing air and substituting H.H.O.. H.H.O. in the quantities produced by onboard units is only a combustion enhancement at best. H.H.O. in such small doses is not at all a fuel suppliment or replacement. In order to replace the air with H.H.O. you would need to pull a trailer with a28KWgenerator and about 1170 W4G electrolizers. That is just an estimate though.


Are you serious??? Because if you are, you are so, so wrong.

I know for a certifiable fact that only 2 W4Gunits will push a 1995 Saturn "down the road", with the gas lines DISCONNECTED!! And strangely enough, the units were running off of the vehicle's battery/alternator.


so you are running your car only on H.H.O. then right? I hope you disconnected your fuel pump too.
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Posted 3/5/2009 8:27:20 PM
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Here are some results. I would greatly appreciate any feedback, input, etc.:

2007 Toyota Yaris (a scangauge II used in all tests, same stretch of flat highway)

Standard mpg, no mods, no H.H.O. - 39mpg

With EFIE on MAF, no H.H.O., no restricted air flow - 48mpg

With EFIE AND restricted air flow, no H.H.O. - 48mpg

With EFIE AND restricted air flow AND H.H.O. - 48mpg

Essentially, the only thing giving me ANY results is the EFIE. I have a piece of gorilla tape blocking 70% of the 3" hose that goes from the air filter box to the engine. The tape is located where the 3" hose connects to the air filter box.



I don't understand why you connected EFIE to your MAF sensor. EFIE is supposed to be connected to your oxygen sensor. This allows you to lean out the air / fuel mixture beyond the parameters set forth by the computer programming.

As far as I know, youshouldn't get any better mileage with EFIE connected to your MAF sensor. However, depending on your connection, I can see how adding to the signal from the MAF could conceivably lean the mix out.

I would tread lightly in that terrain, for fear of blowing out your MAF sensor. Depending on the type, they are not cheap fixes.


efie adjusts in miliV right? that is nothing. most MAP/MAF sensors operate on 5VDC. you need bigger pots not those tiny things to see any change if at all. you need you be able to trick before and after the burn otherwise the computer just defaults.
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So you are removing air and substituting H.H.O.. H.H.O. in the quantities produced by onboard units is only a combustion enhancement at best. H.H.O. in such small doses is not at all a fuel suppliment or replacement. In order to replace the air with H.H.O. you would need to pull a trailer with a28KWgenerator and about 1170 W4G electrolizers. That is just an estimate though.


Are you serious??? Because if you are, you are so, so wrong.

I know for a certifiable fact that only 2 W4Gunits will push a 1995 Saturn "down the road", with the gas lines DISCONNECTED!! And strangely enough, the units were running off of the vehicle's battery/alternator.

so you are running your car only on H.H.O. then right? I hope you disconnected your fuel pump too.

Shur nuff did!!

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Posted 3/20/2009 3:47:38 AM
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Is this with a tower type design?
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