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| I have had a single cell and now a quad cell. I am running 6 volts per cell, 8 teaspoons of baking soda per cell, all 4 cells in total use 9 amps, I have a connection to both the air intake and a vacuum connection (high speed/low speed). I have the bubblers closed completely. With that said what am I doing wrong and what do I need to do to see an improvement? Any and all help is appreciated.
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Supreme Being
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 hello...don't know if i can be of much help, but i'll try...first i/we to know something of what kind of project do you have?...also, did you check your jars for leaks?,,,do you have a gasket inside your lid?...6tsp. of baking soda, as i understand from my reading here in the forum is way to much...what size connections/hoses are you using??...please get back to us with the above, then will go from there, k?...laterhm2u
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| Thanks for the reply. My project is a 2000 GMC Yukon, 5.7 L. Yes I made gaskets for my cells. I draw them down into a vaccuum on the bench and make sure they hold tight for at least 1 hour and they do. I am actually using 8 teaspoons of baking soda but with 6 volts. The cells run at 105F and all 4 together draw about 9 amps. If I hook them up to 12 volts they run 150F and draw 11 amps each or close to 50 amps for the set of 4. I have only run it like this for a minute or so to test it. I would need to rewire to run it like this. I am using 3/8th hose.
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| I have been running 3 jars on the same vehicle for a year now. They are wired in series and connected to a 12v power source. I have never used more than one and 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in them. Of course, the voltage drops as it passes from one jar to the next, (resistance,) but, the amperage is about 6 to 7 amps on each jar. Temperature after 3 hours of running is usually about 100 degrees. Keep in mind, voltage is the motive power that "pushes" the amps through the line. So, if you increase the voltage, merely reduce the soda to lower amps and temperatures. I run the hoses from the 3 jars into a common "manifold", and come out of the "manifold" with just one hose to the air intake, or the engine manifold. If you run a hose to the air and the manifold, you must have a "one-way valve" in the lines, if you don't, the strongest vacuum will suck air from the line with the weakest vacuum, substantually reducing the benifit of the H.H.O..
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| What vehicle specifically do you have it on? What manifold vacuum source are you using? What was your original mileage and what is your improved mileage? I have run a single cell on 12 volts but still had no gain in mileage. Next step is to run all 4 cells with 12 volts but I will have to substantially reduce the amount of BS. I will post my results with 4 cells as well as how many LPM the 4 cells combined produce.
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| I have a large number of vehicles with W4G style electrolyzers installed in them. The ones who consistantly have the best results, are typically General Motors products. Though, Toyota is an excellent responder to the addition of H.H.O.. When installing to the engine manifold, I prefer to "tee" into the pcv hose. 1989 Chev. P.U. - Baseline= 15.2mpg.-- W/H.H.O., 35.6mpg (3 jars.) 1995 Saturn (GM) - Baseline= 29mpg.-- W/H.H.O., 56.2mpg (2 jars.) 1991 Toyota P.U. (4X4) - Baseline= 15mpg.-- W/H.H.O., 53-56mpg (2 jars.) Note: I have stated in a previous post; due to the fact that I have obtained mpg's much higher than the ones posted here. (concerning the 1989 Chev. P.U. listed above,) I have spent months searching for a knowledgable person to help overcome the problems with the ECUs. I am now associated with an Electronics Engineer who holds a Masters Degree in Physics. He is very interested in the usage of H.H.O. in fuel savings. (+ heating, welding and energy.) We are offering free advice and instructions on inovations that we develop. If you are interested, click on my profile, then go to my website and sign-up for our "News Letter".
Walking Eagle, Last of the Visionaries
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