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Posted 6/1/2008 9:25:45 AM
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Please bare in mind that my water4gas system has been installed for 3.1/2 months and has done a great job of cleaning the inside of the engine, may I also say that between these two tests being taken I only had two miles drive to allow the gas to re-enter the system once re-connected.

All system devices DIS-CONNECTED

DESCRIPTION                  LIMITS                          ACTUAL VALUE               TEST PASS/FAIL

CO                              Max 3.500%                             0.29%                                 Pass

HC                              Max 1200 ppm                       134 ppm                                Pass

All system devices RE-CONNECTED

CO                              Max 3.500%                             0.152%                               Pass

HC                              Max 1200 ppm                        160 ppm                               Pass

The mechanic who carried out this official test said that he would not expect these results from a brand new car.  They are far, far below the UK government guide lines and would reccommend that all vehicles should be fitted with them NOW. 

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Eric Hoare. Isle of Wight. England UK

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Posted 6/1/2008 9:45:00 AM
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Great post Eric,

Perhaps Admin. could set up a thread just for smog test results. (Before and After)

Think of the advertising potential, in this time of Global Warming, coupled with escalating gas/diesel prices.

Perhaps it would be even better if we would get the smog test before we install the H.H.O., the again after we run it for 2 or 3 weeks.

Your input is much appreciated!!

Walking Eagle, Last of the Visionaries

Bakersfield, CA

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Posted 6/1/2008 10:06:24 AM
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Hi there, thanks for your reply. I am going to install the system on a brand new car this coming week which will be then connected to a lap top which measures not only the CO" and HC but also analises all the other emissions, most interestingly will be the amount of Oxygen it emits as the level will increase dramatically helping our plannet. I am also in the throngs of producing a professional documentry program which, I hope, will include our UK top gear program presenter Jeremy Clarkson and other Celebs. It is going to rock our Government down to the core because they have been greedy, to long. UK fuel cost for Petrol (gas USA) is £5.50 ($11 USA) a gallon and Deisel is £6.13 ($12.50 USA) a gallon. SEE WHAT I MEAN..

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Posted 6/1/2008 10:32:32 AM
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Sounds Fantastic!!

And, I know exactly what you mean. I have a somewhat weird memory.

When I was in the 4th grade, we were told that gasoline (petrol) in the UK was over .50 cents per gallon. We were amazed since gas here was only .11 cents per gallon. Of course, we were only children so, who cared? But, that has stuck in my mind for most of my life. Perhaps this is the reason that I've been experimenting with gas saving devices since 1969. (lol)

Up to Water4Gas, I've had a little sucess, but nothing as "Earth Shaking" as Water4Gas.

Seems like Governments never change!!

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Posted 6/1/2008 2:21:05 PM


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interesting results, but the ever so slight increase in unburned hc is weird. Hc is unburned gas coming out the tailpipe, the slight increase tells me that your computer might be over compensating still. Maybe get an o2 extender or efie if you are not already using one.

I had a 89 vw golf once that had almost zero unburned hc, and it was stock and rather high miles! Even the testing center thought it was wrong. The co was slightly on the high side, emissions are weird sometimes.


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Posted 6/3/2008 8:11:20 AM
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Cheer for that info Creepy Jon. On my model there are NO Oxygen sensors so the higher HC was a little confusing. When they ran the car to 2500 revs then the HC dropped to 111 ppmvol which was quite interesting but all the readings are better than a BRAND NEW CAR.

The following are the readings performed on a Peugeot 8 person Diesel People carrier Taxi

Previous vehicle test carried out on the 31 march 2008 No H.H.O. devices ever been fitted.

Description                                Limits                    Actual Value                        Pass/Fail

Absorption coefficient               3.50                          3.02 1/m                               Pass

Mean Ab Co                                 3.00                          2.78

H.H.O. device fitted 25 May 2008. Test done on 30 May 2008 (just five days)

Asborption coefficient              3.50                           1.5 1/m                          Fast Pass

Mean Ab Co                                3.00                            0.78                               Fast Pass

These results are truely astonishing and wouldn't be expected from new vehicles. Both this result and the previous result I posted were carried out at two completely different carages and in no way were the engines altered or calabrated to enhance these results. The chap who ownes the fleet of Taxis spends £6,000 ($12,000) a week on fuel so I recon I have my work cut out for a while fitting H.H.O. systems to the whole fleet.

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Eric Hoare. Isle of Wight. England UK

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Posted 6/7/2008 8:54:33 AM
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Your results particularly the Diesel Taxi interest me.  I once owned a European version Peugot Diesel.  Based on that am I correct that this is a non-turbocharged engine?  If turbocharged how is the H.H.O. gotten into the engine?  What did the leaning out of the diesel fuel do to the exhaust gas temperature?

Any info would be appreciated.    

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Posted 6/7/2008 9:42:20 AM
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Hi there Diesel lover,

In answer to your questions the Taxi was a turbo and I installed the H.H.O. system BEFORE it entered the turbo. I made that mistake in the past and accidentaly installed after the turbo which created a back pressure on the H.H.O. pipe preventing the check valve from opening resulting in the lid of the H.H.O. bottle to blow off. As to your othere question, all the results were given to me by the Taxi company owner which he received from the garage which didn't include exhaust tempreture readings, but good point as I will have them checked in the future as well. Best of luck with your future results..

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Eric Hoare. Isle of Wight. England UK

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Posted 6/25/2008 12:08:09 AM


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Hi folks..we are posting the Washington State emissions tests from 6-13-08..before HOD...Then.6-23-08..after 4 days of HOD and tested with it hooked up..Before..idle limit on HC,s....220 parts per million we blew 9....Before CO %..1.1%..we blew 0.12 %..Now...After.idle limit on.HC,s..220..we blew 8....After CO%..we blew..0..thats right...0%.Another nice factor...our Oxygen emissions went up.Both at idle and at run speed.This is after 4 days..about 500 miles of testing..so make of it what you wish.We are convinced and dedicated to spread this technology to as many that show an interest in it.Enjoy and relax!

It's all good. Keep it simple, and never give up.

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